Dedicated 3rd Party Lens Discussion (Examples Updated)

I prefer this lens replacement method, as there is no need to take the GP apart..
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yes, I've seen that one too, she makes it look so easy :)

in that video I posted above, many users comment that they've done exactly that instead of the complicated procedure, using the heatgun or hairdryer to loosen the glue bonding may work, I didn't try that. Peau are saying that it's risky, if the stock lens is glued in "properly" you can break the plastic lens mount, but then the 3.80mm actually comes with a spare lens mount so I guess one can try it the easy way and if you break the mount well then you still have one chance to do it the proper way.
 
A bit off-topic...

I can't help it, but when I look at this thread, I have to get "mad" at GoPro. How stupid do you have to be, to not realize, what your product is used for and then make a few adjustments?! Seriously, did it fly over their heads that there are probably millions of people out there, using the GoPro for Aerial Photography, and as such, Fisheye and what not is not desired?! The Phantom 1 alone must have been sold hundreds of thousand of times... It would have been SOOOOOO simply to make a few changes to the GoPro case and allow for different lenses to be mounted. But no, what do they do instead?! Come out with a smaller version for the same amount of money?! (At the time the Session was $399!).

Rant over.

i totally agree. i think they missed the mark on that one. they could have sold non fisheye lenses and made the lens profile a setting. i guess they only want surfers to use the gopro.
 
Can someone post a picture of an image from the stock lens and the exact same image from the 3.8? I'd like to see how the field of view differs. Perhaps in the Wide setting.

Sorry for all the questions!
 
Hey guys, I got myself the "new" 3.8mm lens (thanks @franknitty69) and I noticed that it screws in and out very easily.
The thread is not long enough to use a threaded ring to secure it on. What method is best to secure it once focused? Ideally a method that can also be easily undone (no glue :) )

Thanks!

edit;
I just realized that the 3.8mm lens is basically similar to the Phantom 3 lens.
The Phantom has a diagonal fov of 94° while the 3.8mm lens is 95°.
 
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Hey guys, I got myself the "new" 3.8mm lens (thanks @franknitty69) and I noticed that it screws in and out very easily.
The thread is not long enough to use a threaded ring to secure it on. What method is best to secure it once focused? Ideally a method that can also be easily undone (no glue :) )

Thanks!

edit;
I just realized that the 3.8mm lens is basically similar to the Phantom 3 lens.
The Phantom has a diagonal fov of 94° while the 3.8mm lens is 95°.
I just used 1 wrap of teflon (plumbers) tape.
 
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3.8mm lens. Short clip from a Real Estate shoot a couple of days ago. No Post, ProTune/Flat 4k rendered to HD.
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3.8mm lens. Short clip from a Real Estate shoot a couple of days ago. No Post, ProTune/Flat 4k rendered to HD.
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Not bad.. just a little pink eye.
 
3.8mm lens. Short clip from a Real Estate shoot a couple of days ago. No Post, ProTune/Flat 4k rendered to HD.
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that looks good even when I stretch to full screen on 5k retina display.

and btw. that "Tipsy in the creek" video on your channel is seriously funny
 
If anyone else does a group buy on the 3.8 lens, let me know.

I'm still hoping someone can post some pictures of an A/B compare of the stock vs the 3.8 with the same scene and the camera in the same position.

I'm trying to understand how the GP4B will be useful in non drone use with the 3.8 lens. I'd prefer not to have to swap lenses a lot, or to have more than one camera.
 
I'm still hoping someone can post some pictures of an A/B compare of the stock vs the 3.8 with the same scene and the camera in the same position.

I looked through my photos because I did quite a few comparison tests, but the problem is that all of my photos taken with the stock lens are at Medium FOV, not Wide as that's the comparison you requested. I think this will go for most people, those who are using stock lens, shoot at Medium FOV.

I can make such a test tomorrow (it's night over here right now), but it will be GoPro on a tripod, not on a drone.

edit : you are actually looking for a non-drone use, so yes, I can do it on a tripod tomorrow
 
3.8mm lens. Short clip from a Real Estate shoot a couple of days ago. No Post, ProTune/Flat 4k rendered to HD.
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cool, are you going to throw on a LUT or ?
 
When using these lenses, would you just leave the camera set for wide FOV, which gets you the full 95ish degree FOV? Using Medium or Narrow would result in a rather small image and be fairly useless? Is my understanding correct?
 
When using these lenses, would you just leave the camera set for wide FOV, which gets you the full 95ish degree FOV? Using Medium or Narrow would result in a rather small image and be fairly useless? Is my understanding correct?

Yes, you use Wide FoV so you can shoot in 4K. If you shoot in medium, it will be zoomed in and max 2.7k. You still can get a great image in 2.7k.
The real advantage with flat lenses is that you don't have to process the fisheye, losing some of the sharpness in the process. You save computing time, get an extra sharp image and don't see the legs in the frame even at 4k
 
When using these lenses, would you just leave the camera set for wide FOV, which gets you the full 95ish degree FOV? Using Medium or Narrow would result in a rather small image and be fairly useless? Is my understanding correct?
Yes, I haven't used anything but wide since my first lens change. Never any legs in the shot and get to use full sensor.
 
When using these lenses, would you just leave the camera set for wide FOV, which gets you the full 95ish degree FOV? Using Medium or Narrow would result in a rather small image and be fairly useless? Is my understanding correct?

yes, that's the whole idea with these lenses - to be able to shoot at Wide FOV because then you utilize full width of the GoPro sensor.

when you shoot at Medium FOV you are "wasting" the un-utilized portion of the sensor :
LensCrops.jpg

it seems to be the case that drone hobbyists settled for the +/- 20mm-24mm focal length as ideal for aerial photography/videography (that's in 35mm film equivalent), this is why we set GoPro stock lens to Medium FOV (that's about 21mm equivalent) at the expense of wasting part of the sensor.
Manufacturers that make specific cameras/lenses for drones also seem to have settled for these type of lenses.

with the GoPro sensor size 1/2.3" this (20-24mm equiv) translates roughly to lenses 3.50mm to 4.2mm that we are trying to use in GoPro.
3.80mm lens utilizing full width (Wide FOV) of the GoPro sensor is 21.66mm equivalent.

Such lenses are easier to manufacture with minimal distortion, they give us FOV that makes drone legs and props not visible in the frame and yet are not too narrow either (narrow FOV makes vibration in footage more pronounced).

And as many others mentioned already, this is where GoPro missed the train, their sales are declining while over 1 million drones are being sold in US alone during Xmas period. They should've released GoPro 4 Air version before Xmas with same specs as current GP4, just with a different lens and profile adjusted accordingly, would've cost them almost nothing to implement.

I really want to see what flagship camera they intend to put in Karma and whether GP5 will address this gap in their GP lineup.
 
Yes, I haven't used anything but wide since my first lens change. Never any legs in the shot and get to use full sensor.
Hey Jubair, Thanks for the lens!
Installing the 3.80mm, was a easy, but focusing the lens at the "Just right" position is problematic. I think Pete typed some good info on this?
Looks like it will be the weekend till i get the time to do it right.
Will report in after i get it focused.

Thanks again
 
Hey Jubair, Thanks for the lens!
Installing the 3.80mm, was a easy, but focusing the lens at the "Just right" position is problematic. I think Pete typed some good info on this?
Looks like it will be the weekend till i get the time to do it right.
Will report in after i get it focused.

Thanks again

Hi, I was wondering how loose the lens threads/assembly felt? I like the idea of the ability to adjust the focus on occasion. If youre shooting ALL landscapes and only just passing foreground stuff I would really want to dial in 'infinity'...and then sometimes might have a need to be sharp on something pretty close. If I go the Git2Pro / 3.8mm route, and things go well, maybe I will just get 2 setups (and still be almost $300 less than a peauHero4/3.97).
 

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