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The link references the over a year old 107 proposed new rules. The rules that shook out of that is what we have now.
Why would you want a 333 then? If you plan on flying in controlled airspace (ABCD airspace), at night, or other tightly controlled operations. Here's the thing; if you have a 333, you'll be exempt from everything above in blue, and will have the ability to file for controlled airspaces and nightflights (or other SCOA). So....having a 333 in the system prior to 107 offers up some significant advantages, and a couple disadvantages.
•You'll likely be less well-trained.
•You'll be precluded from SCOA's.
Figure out what's best for your needs, and whether you're interested in the wait for somethign we're not 100% sure of at this time.
I am fully aware of what makes a flight "commercial" in nature. There is no "licensing" for hobby use (there should be). I think you are confusing it with the "registration" for hobby use which all operators flying in the NAS are required to do (I've never seen is referred to a "336 exemption" except on the web site you keep linking to with the old links). I am aware of hobby rules, which does not require you to be a member of any organization as you stated. Anyone who is flying in the US 13 years of age & up can register a hobby AC with the FAA. The hobby end of it is done now, has been since the beginning of the year. The only confusion comes in when the 333 comes into play. It seems many people are waiting till the FAA simplifies the commercial end of it.
Public Law 112-95
SEC. 336. SPECIAL RULE FOR MODEL AIRCRAFT.
(a) IN GENERAL.—Notwithstanding any other provision of law
relating to the incorporation of unmanned aircraft systems into
Federal Aviation Administration plans and policies, including this
subtitle, the Administrator of the Federal Aviation Administration
may not promulgate any rule or regulation regarding a model
aircraft, or an aircraft being developed as a model aircraft, if—
(1) the aircraft is flown strictly for hobby or recreational
use;
(2) the aircraft is operated in accordance with a communitybased
set of safety guidelines and within the programming
of a nationwide community-based organization;
(3) the aircraft is limited to not more than 55 pounds
unless otherwise certified through a design, construction,
inspection, flight test, and operational safety program administered
by a community-based organization;
(4) the aircraft is operated in a manner that does not
interfere with and gives way to any manned aircraft; and
(5) when flown within 5 miles of an airport, the operator
of the aircraft provides the airport operator and the airport
air traffic control tower (when an air traffic facility is located
at the airport) with prior notice of the operation (model aircraft
operators flying from a permanent location within 5 miles of
an airport should establish a mutually-agreed upon operating
procedure with the airport operator and the airport air traffic
control tower (when an air traffic facility is located at the
airport)).
(b) STATUTORY CONSTRUCTION.—Nothing in this section shall
be construed to limit the authority of the Administrator to pursue
enforcement action against persons operating model aircraft who
endanger the safety of the national airspace system.
(c) MODEL AIRCRAFT DEFINED.—In this section, the term ‘‘model
aircraft’’ means an unmanned aircraft that is—
(1) capable of sustained flight in the atmosphere;
(2) flown within visual line of sight of the person operating
the aircraft; and
(3) flown for hobby or recreational purposes.
You say the 333 will still have some advantages over someone with just a part 107 certificate. Two of those being a) able to file for controlled airspaces and b) night ops (or other SCOA)
BUT then you say there are dis-advantages, specifically:
•You'll likely be less well-trained.
•You'll be precluded from SCOA's.
Can you clarify a little. It sounds like you are saying 333 holders could file for SCOAs, then say they are precluded from SCOAs
I am just about finished writing my 333 request, really just copy & paste from several other petetions that I thought were decent, then taylor to my needs. Should I even bother at this point with a 333? By time the FAA geta arounf to reviewing my 333, Part 107 should be in effect?
AND once the FAA has the "unmanned aircraft operator certificate with a small UAS rating" do you know if that will satisify the PPL requirement in the 333 exemptions?
Re: LicensingThe only thing I am struggling with is your misinformation. You sir said "There already is hobby "licensing." but no, there is not. Registration & licensing are not the same thing. I said I hope licensing comes along sooner or later for all operators, hobby & commercial. I am aware there is none now, hence my hoping for it. Letting anyone with more brains than money to operate one is not a good approach.
Since you have descended into insulting me, I will be exiting this conversation as it is no longer productive.
OK, so the million dollar question.....Those holding 333's are/will be able to file for SCOA's. Current expectations based on the proposed rule indicates 107 operators won't have that privilege. Night flights fall into SCOA. The disadvantage goes to the 107 permittee, not to the 333 permittee.
OK, so the million dollar question.....
Current 333 exemptions require a PPL, will the "unmanned aircraft operator certificate satisfy the PPL requirement in the 333 exemptions?
The only thing I am struggling with is your misinformation. You sir said "There already is hobby "licensing." but no, there is not. Registration & licensing are not the same thing. I said I hope licensing comes along sooner or later for all operators, hobby & commercial. I am aware there is none now, hence my hoping for it. Letting anyone with more brains than money to operate one is not a good approach.
Since you have descended into insulting me, I will be exiting this conversation as it is no longer productive.
You say the 333 will still have some advantages over someone with just a part 107 certificate. Two of those being a) able to file for controlled airspaces and b) night ops (or other SCOA)
BUT then you say there are dis-advantages, specifically:
•You'll likely be less well-trained.
•You'll be precluded from SCOA's.
Can you clarify a little. It sounds like you are saying 333 holders could file for SCOAs, then say they are precluded from SCOAs
I am just about finished writing my 333 request, really just copy & paste from several other petetions that I thought were decent, then taylor to my needs. Should I even bother at this point with a 333? By time the FAA geta arounf to reviewing my 333, Part 107 should be in effect?
AND once the FAA has the "unmanned aircraft operator certificate with a small UAS rating" do you know if that will satisify the PPL requirement in the 333 exemptions?
Could you share that with us when you're done? If you wouldn't mind?
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