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Thanks for sharing that. Well written, and clever.
Yikes, really? Can you send me a link to that, please? (I regularly fly in Oregon)Very informative, but I think the potential significance of state and local laws needs emphasis. For example, if you fly drone over private property in Oregon w/o permission, the property owner may recover "punitive damages" plus attorney's fees.
That goes back to the 'fact' that only the FAA can regulate the airspace. Local laws are relegated to only where you can takeoff/land from. But the issue is that they can do it until challenged and the law is overturned.Very informative, but I think the potential significance of state and local laws needs emphasis. For example, if you fly drone over private property in Oregon w/o permission, the property owner may recover "punitive damages" plus attorney's fees.
That;s been my argument as well Steve for some time. All this privacy stuff just coming up, but aircraft & helis have been flying with high powered cameras almost as long as planes have been flying.One thing regarding the privacy issue that I never really hear brought up... it's not just the device flying (and where it is physically located in they sky)...it's also the power of the optics.
Is it just the fact that the device/uav is "visible" that freaks people out? Or is it that they fear what you can see from it?
What if I could fly 10,000 feet above your property and zoom in with super duper high resolution detail? Satellites are routinely flying over your house and mapping it, in MUCH greater detail than google maps/earth displays. You can see grains of sand. There are military uav's that do the same thing. So, what is the "privacy" concert REALLY about? If it's about being seen, you lost that privacy many, many years ago and it will not return.
Yikes, really? Can you send me a link to that, please? (I regularly fly in Oregon)
One thing regarding the privacy issue that I never really hear brought up... it's not just the device flying (and where it is physically located in they sky)...it's also the power of the optics.
Is it just the fact that the device/uav is "visible" that freaks people out? Or is it that they fear what you can see from it?
What if I could fly 10,000 feet above your property and zoom in with super duper high resolution detail? Satellites are routinely flying over your house and mapping it, in MUCH greater detail than google maps/earth displays. You can see grains of sand. There are military uav's that do the same thing. So, what is the "privacy" concert REALLY about? If it's about being seen, you lost that privacy many, many years ago and it will not return.
Huh, I didn't know that, thanks! Looks like they copy-catted CA.See Section 15. Oregon legislation protects airspace over private property from 1 inch to 400 feet.
https://olis.leg.state.or.us/liz/2013R1/Downloads/MeasureDocument/HB2710
. . . and made it worse. I think CA only specifies 300 feet.Huh, I didn't know that, thanks! Looks like they copy-catted CA.
That goes back to the 'fact' that only the FAA can regulate the airspace. Local laws are relegated to only where you can takeoff/land from. But the issue is that they can do it until challenged and the law is overturned.
And "if you fly drone over private property in Oregon w/o permission, the property owner may recover "punitive damages" plus attorney's fees" would have to be VERY strictly defined and difficult to enforce. For example. at what height are they claiming the property extends? What about military drones? At what weight are they classifying their law is enforced? Is it OK for a manned heli to hover at 500' with cameras and a zoom lens that could read the color of your eyes? Who determines the drone was over the property and proves it? Anyone that has flown much knows that it can be very deceptive where you think you are flying over then load the mission back and see the actual track. Can a homeowner just say ; Hey it went over my property line and I want money!"
I better stop sunbathing naked in my backyard
I better stop sunbathing naked in my backyard
However, you are not the government nor the military, therefore you are still under the civilian law. If it said you can't then you can't unless you can change the law.One thing regarding the privacy issue that I never really hear brought up... it's not just the device flying (and where it is physically located in they sky)...it's also the power of the optics.
Is it just the fact that the device/uav is "visible" that freaks people out? Or is it that they fear what you can see from it?
What if I could fly 10,000 feet above your property and zoom in with super duper high resolution detail? Satellites are routinely flying over your house and mapping it, in MUCH greater detail than google maps/earth displays. You can see grains of sand. There are military uav's that do the same thing. So, what is the "privacy" concert REALLY about? If it's about being seen, you lost that privacy many, many years ago and it will not return.
Maybe someone should inform them, then, of the laws so they (government) don't continue to break them lol.However, you are not the government nor the military, therefore you are still under the civilian law. If it said you can't then you can't unless you can change the law.
I think such a law is ripe for challenge, the FAA would most likely back you on that.Very informative, but I think the potential significance of state and local laws needs emphasis. For example, if you fly drone over private property in Oregon w/o permission, the property owner may recover "punitive damages" plus attorney's fees.
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