Windows 10 compatible GoPro studio replacement

*sigh* Not sure where you are getting your data, but Linux wasn't invented until 1991, and that as a university project. The open source community didn't get going strong until About 2000, and at that point Windows owned the world.

Linux - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

That makes it at oldest 24, but the open source community is more like 16. And the instances of Active Linux will likely surpass active Windows this year.

As for Apple TV, it is going the same route as all closed technical systems. It is an evolution that happens over and over.

Roku still tops as sales of streaming-media players rise - CNET

Yes, all the others are based on Linux.

As I said earlier, one ant doesn't eat you, a million do. Now the Linux is being built right into the TV's. Just like PC's, and phones, and tablets, each time Apple invents a new market, the products sell well. Then it eventually gets overtaken. At this point they are slowly losing until and unless they invent something brand new. .

android vs ios graph - Google Search

I sit on these standards committees. I see all the guts (video, communication, etc etc) go to standards. And they get implemented in open source. It literally always goes this way.

Virtualization? Again, I don't know what to tell you, except to show you the facts. Vrtualization has revolutionized the server and high end workstation world, apparently under your feet. There is hardly an IT shop or server farm on the planet that doesn't run and now rely on it, and I can tell you first hand, it solves a TON of problems. The overhead is tiny. You only have to deal with drivers on the one host PC/OS, and each VM can have a different OS, service packs etc. I work for a fortune 50. They wouldn't even think of tripple booting a machine today, and I have over a dozen desktop VM's for various reasons. I would bet money this site is hosted on a virtual machine.

Again. It doesn't matter what you or I say, the IT world is going virtual and cloud, and in a hurry. That is just a fact.

DailyTech - Virtualization Reaches 92% Enterprise Penetration Rate, VMware Leads the Way

I don't know what to tell ya man...

As for software, the more people you have working on it, and the more diverse they are, the better (and more adaptable) it gets. That is exactly open source. You have people like Ascent, adapting for things like the Sprite (and a hundred other groups). And all that work gets fed back in to the collective. It is a very powerful thing to watch. That is exactly how Solo got Smart Shots and Tower, and it literally is just getting started.

One thing that is true is that the problem with predicting the future, is it hasn't happened yet. Another thing is that nothing either of us says will change any of it. It will play out in due time.

As my dad used to say... You place your bets, and you takes your chances.

That's what my day job is. I am very comfortable with my bets, as I have seen this movie before. It is like watching a romantic comedy. Same story, only the girl and guy have different jobs. In this case, same open source and closed system, just on UAV's instead of computers/phones/tablets/TV's this time.

I look at github and see dozens of things being worked on. I look at Made for Solo and see a dozen things there. I look at DJI and I see DJI and a few API apps. I see the mtrying to get "open source like" traction with the Matrice, but not getting far. Obviously I am missing really big things they are working on.

Time will tell

Cheers.
sigh...?
well, we know where you get your info anyway. the interwebs.
where everything you read is the truth. nice.

I don't have a day job. Mine is day & night that's how I retired @ 40, 22 years ago.
now it's for fun. (same hrs.)

I'll keep it short. I'm way off topic (my fault) and truly appreciate both your and every other smart guys contributions to this forum. My opinion is not based on tech specs, wikipedia, or some blog but experience interfacing computers with all of the flavors into the presentation/corporate and entertainment biss for the last 40 plus years. I do it most every week and have a good sense on what works, what people want, and where it's headed.
I have to. Most are fortune 500 companies that hire us.

I know very little about RC stuff and I'm a true noob there.

Show me a millennial coding anything anywhere these days and It will be a guy who works 14hr days with a macbook in terminal. Nothing is new. they just patch things together in commits on github. 3DR is doing the same. And Chris and Colin are both using an iPad.

and no, this computer game started with the altair 1200 in the 70's not in 2001.
that machine was useless until that 16yr old guy ahhh.. Bill made it do something.
they called it software even tho it was really just an idea.
you remember the timex sinclair. ya know, the 4k machine?
sounds pretty "open source" to me.
I was doing basic for my company on a TRS80.
IBM PC was started with lotus 123
and Apple was the stolen Xerox's Palo Alto mouse.
Been living it ever since.
like I said, Software apps dictate where we go.
Ideas. thank god.

and yes, as you say... time.

I too have see this movie and don't know of any real players that didn't survive to this day.
Every TV station used Sony Betamax SP until digi took hold with flash drives
Some US aircraft carries still operate on windows NT.
aahhuugg..
I'm running out of gas on this, not to mention most likely failing horribly at changing any minds.
I quit, hope all is well with the day job Earl ( and keeping track of what OS rules, I'm starting a blog about DOS 3.1 is starting a comeback.;))
Fly safe!
I got the "winefest" AND "oktoberfest" this weekend and looking forward to it!
Just wish this damn thing would fly indoors, it's a BIG room on the water.

Any rumors about optical flow for solo yet?

.rik.
 
First, don't worry about hurting my feelings. I don't mind opinions. It makes the world go round. If I have evidence what you are saying is wrong, I am compelled to give it to you. I don't get uptight about debate though... Hopefully you are the same.
sigh...?
well, we know where you get your info anyway. the interwebs.
where everything you read is the truth. nice.

Most people don't really understand how Wikipedia works. There are citations for everything, and anyone can contest what is there, if they have evidence for something else. Happens all the time, and though it can be wrong in the very short term, it isn't oin the long term on anything people care about. Certainly not on hisstorical things like this.

Was there some information you challenge? Or was it just a "general" dispersion? :)

Show me a millennial coding anything anywhere these days and It will be a guy who works 14hr days with a macbook in terminal. Nothing is new. they just patch things together in commits on github. 3DR is doing the same. And Chris and Colin are both using an iPad.

Ummm... No problem. My wife is a programmer for Amazon. Been there 14 years. Employee number in the hundreds. Never touched a Mac in her life, and uses a Samsung phone. A wiz at Unix, Linux, Java, etc. Her along with just about everyone else there that codes uses PC's. Never seen a MaC there in the hundreds of times I have been there either, nor have I seen anyone use one, except for web testing. .

I won't say where I work as they wouldn't be to happy about it, but we are a fortune 50, have 130,000 employees, do a TON of software work for the military (I could go on for hours about DIACAP, CoN, ATO, and now RMS) as well as do a large amount for aerospace etc. etc. I work with developers all day long, almost every day of my life. This company doesn't even allow Macs on the network. We do allow IPads and IPhones, but with heavy restrictions. I can guarantee you, there is nobody here coding on a MacBook here.

This computer game started with the altair 1200 in the 70's not in 2001.
that machine was useless until that 16yr old guy ahhh.. Bill made it do something.they called it software even tho it was really just an idea.
you remember the timex sinclair. ya know, the 4k machine?
sounds pretty "open source" to me.
I was doing basic for my company on a TRS80.
IBM PC was started with lotus 123
and Apple was the stolen Xerox's Palo Alto mouse.
Been living it ever since.
like I said, Software apps dictate where we go.
Ideas. thank god

Sounds like some similarities in our history. Not going to get into name dropping, but I have been to Bills house and worked on the systems there, when it was being built. We grew up at the same time and the same place. Several people I know have known him. (No we weren't friends).

Both my parents were engineers and programmers., for a time at Boeing I had all the sinclairs, timex's, comodores,and the VERY FIRST IBM PC model running CPM with two CPM floppies and no hard drive. (before even QDOS). I have had everything since.

I also grew up with a working IBM system 3 as a coffee table. We used to reprogram the error codes to swear words, and thought that was hilarious. I paid for college maintaining the IBM mainframe and peripherals (including drum drives, tape drives, key punches, sorters, etc.) at the University of Washington computer center.

I too have see this movie and don't know of any real players that didn't survive to this day.
Every TV station used Sony Betamax SP until digi took hold with flash drives
You completely missed the point. Sure the companies survived. Because they found some different technology to come back with. IBM survived. OS2 didn't. Picking a company that survives has value, but that is Ali partly "war chest". Picking the technologies that survive or not is what gives the big paybacks (or losses).

Some US aircraft carries still operate on windows NT
.

Ummmm... Did I mention that I often work with Cyber (formerly IASED) J6, and NETWARCOM? Trust me on this. The entire fleet (any servers networked) are off of even Win 2003 server, and the minimum UGM is 2008 R2. The new (NEC etc.) mantra is that it doesn't matter if it "is" networked, but if it "could be" networked, that requires cyber. I know this as a fact. I won't say any more.

Any rumors about optical flow for solo yet?

3DR has had flow for a while, and it has been on Solo's at various shows. Optical flow by nature just isn't that good though. It requires you to be to close, doesn't like water, etc. etc. I personally think the DJI version has caused more crashes than it saved. Most don't use it, but just don't know it. I have the DJI version of flow, and it really isn't that good. I tried using it, but it is too quirky. I just keep it turned off now, as I would rather fly in Atti. It is more predictable.

Though no special knowledge, my understanding is that those project(s) are part of the "Made for Solo" program, and different people are working on a couple things. Lidar using lasers, and video analytics. :) open source gets that. No word on completion dates.
 
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First, don't worry about hurting my feelings. I don't mind opinions. It makes the world go round. If I have evidence what you are saying is wrong, I am compelled to give it to you. I don't get uptight about debate though... Hopefully you are the same.

Most people don't really understand how Wikipedia works. There are citations for everything, and anyone can contest what is there, if they have evidence for something else. Happens all the time, and though it can be wrong in the very short term, it isn't oin the long term on anything people care about. Certainly not on hisstorical things like this.

Was there some information you challenge? Or was it just a "general" dispersion? :)



Ummm... No problem. My wife is a programmer for Amazon. Been there 14 years. Employee number in the hundreds. Never touched a Mac in her life, and uses a Samsung phone. A wiz at Unix, Linux, Java, etc. Her along with just about everyone else there that codes uses PC's. Never seen a MaC there in the hundreds of times I have been there either, nor have I seen anyone use one, except for web testing. .

I won't say where I work as they wouldn't be to happy about it, but we are a fortune 50, have 130,000 employees, do a TON of software work for the military (I could go on for hours about DIACAP, CoN, ATO, and now RMS) as well as do a large amount for aerospace etc. etc. I work with developers all day long, almost every day of my life. This company doesn't even allow Macs on the network. We do allow IPads and IPhones, but with heavy restrictions. I can guarantee you, there is nobody here coding on a MacBook here.



Sounds like some similarities in our history. Not going to get into name dropping, but I have been to Bills house and worked on the systems there, when it was being built. We grew up at the same time and the same place. Several people I know have known him. (No we weren't friends).

Both my parents were engineers and programmers., for a time at Boeing I had all the sinclairs, timex's, comodores,and the VERY FIRST IBM PC model running CPM with two CPM floppies and no hard drive. (before even QDOS). I have had everything since.

I also grew up with a working IBM system 3 as a coffee table. We used to reprogram the error codes to swear words, and thought that was hilarious. I paid for college maintaining the IBM mainframe and peripherals (including drum drives, tape drives, key punches, sorters, etc.) at the University of Washington computer center.


You completely missed the point. Sure the companies survived. Because they found some different technology to come back with. IBM survived. OS2 didn't. Picking a company that survives has value, but that is Ali partly "war chest". Picking the technologies that survive or not is what gives the big paybacks (or losses).

.

Ummmm... Did I mention that I often work with Cyber (formerly IASED) J6, and NETWARCOM? Trust me on this. The entire fleet (any servers networked) are off of even Win 2003 server, and the minimum UGM is 2008 R2. The new (NEC etc.) mantra is that it doesn't matter if it "is" networked, but if it "could be" networked, that requires cyber. I know this as a fact. I won't say any more.



3DR has had flow for a while, and it has been on Solo's at various shows. Optical flow by nature just isn't that good though. It requires you to be to close, doesn't like water, etc. etc. I personally think the DJI version has caused more crashes than it saved. Most don't use it, but just don't know it. I have the DJI version of flow, and it really isn't that good. I tried using it, but it is too quirky. I just keep it turned off now, as I would rather fly in Atti. It is more predictable.

Though no special knowledge, my understanding is that those project(s) are part of the "Made for Solo" program, and different people are working on a couple things. Lidar using lasers, and video analytics. :) open source gets that. No word on completion dates.

ahhh... I see more clearly now.
Thanks for taking the time to post and not pushing ignore.
I too have to speak to things that don't sit quite right with me too.
No, never intended or worried about hurting your feelings.
and hell yea opinions rock when they come from smart guys like us eh?

however closed our blinders are.
You have laided out your package, very impressive I must say, but also prone to what I often see in deep IT guys. The whole down your nose "you just don't get it" thing. I sorta had to squeeze it out of you and with a little effort maybe get your CIA clearance info in the end, eh?

I remember in the 90's getting flamed by some mid east IT guy about how my windoze machine was junk and I should get into Redhat or something.
All I could say was "Nobody cares what system/software serves them their porn"
And lets face it, Porn and games drives the industry. that's where the $$ @.
(cant wait till they get the 2 together eh?)

Wife at Amazon? No Macs? 100's of people coding?
Military IT?
Well sounds like hell to me, and old school.
My kid codes in a startup across from the empire state building in Manhattan.
Tons of em in NYC/SanFran.
Big money. Owns a piece. He's the lead for Pinterest/Target and some others.
Not a PC in sight. Nothing but Macs.
All those hipsters in Starbucks?
Don't count them out of the future just cause they are using Macs.
They just might be the next Jobs.
Granted it's not OSx, it's terminal they use to speak to your point.
But that generation is working WAY harder then you , me or the wife.
No time for solo.

I guess my only point here is just cause it was, does not mean it will be.
Ideas come from all sources.
Apple has to come up with them to stay afloat then android can mimic with all it's ants?
Or is it the other way around.. I forget. Too much $$ floating between lawyers in court.
Hey, maybe it's that guy at Starbucks with the weird hat. poor bastard.

Standards.. pfffttt...

One thing for sure the head of that fortune 50 you work for?
He has no clue what OS your using and could care less.
He has a iPad at home thats NOT restricted and watches Netflix.
Why?
Cause they are great ideas/software.

I know because I've had to deal with GE/Talbots/MFS/Fidelity/Converse CEO's among others in a presentation somewhere in a huge room where there was not a single linux machine running anything. Why? cause while they make great servers and clean smarts for specific hardware, (your example: Cloud virtual OS) Thats not what is needed. My world. Your world.
I have no doubt you know yours.

Like you said before, neither one of us know really where either are headed.

Since we are already way off topic-

Bills place in the Hill? WOW.
Mind blowing years ago. I'm sure it's not running NT either anymore.
Me jealous.

And thanks for the tip on the optical flow, bummer.
Laser?
Proximity sensors?
Ultrasound?

I'm a really bad pilot.

Best-

.rik.
 
So I've been trying to figure out why my GoPro studio went crazy and just stopped working, came to find out quicktime is not supported by win 10. So basically until it is it seems GoPro studio is worthless at least on my good computer. I've opened it on my old satellite which is more than I can say for my Sager, however using that's really not an option and I still get error messages and I'm betting more issues if I use it.

Question is then what are folks that don't use GPS for cutting, converting or anything and running win 10 using successfully?

I'm fairly new to AP editing so it would be nice if it's somewhat user friendly but I should be able to learn most of the software fairly quickly. I really don't want to drop 3 or 400 bucks at once unless necessary but wouldn't mind paying a monthly for something worthwhile like premiere I guess.

Would that be the best option or are there other better/easier/or cheaper options that will still give good professional looking results for Windows 10?

I'd rather pay a bit than have very limited functionality, it'd be nice to not have to spend an arm and a leg but I understand you get what you pay for most of the time. Any and all experience or insight on this is appreciated and I'd guess this thread could help others as well, I know there are other threads but I havent seen any discussing Windows 10 compatible software just yet. I'm assuming most folks were smarter than I was and waited to upgrade to 10 since I'm not seeing this discussed much, hopefully a few jumped like I did and have working options.


Thanks
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You need to try out LightWorks. I downloaded it about a month ago. I spent a few hours on it last night playing around with a video. It's a little difficult to use at first but once you start figuring it out it is pretty nice. I have the free version right now which will only let you export up to 720P but the Pro version is $175 a year or $438 for the outright license.
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ahhh...
One thing for sure the head of that fortune 50 you work for?
He has no clue what OS your using and could care less.
He has a iPad at home thats NOT restricted and watches Netflix.

Funny story, we are puttingh together a new headquarters that is also a technology showcase (think Tony Stark) and I was there with him. (hense the 70' touch screen I have been playing with in previous videos. What he HAS.. is a REALLY beat up old 'lucky" leather brief case, and an iPhone 4....

And thanks for the tip on the optical flow, bummer.
Laser?
Proximity sensors?
Ultrasound?

The Lidar is a laser, and works better for both accuracy, and at a distance.

Lidar - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The others mentioned have their place, just not this place, as the technologies just don't work well in this varied environmenst, and thats not a good thing when you are relying on it to keep a heavy chunk plastic and metal from crqashing. :)

The video analytics is the really interesting one. I work in that also, and they have come a LONG way with that in the last few years. They are being standardized, and what used to run on servers, has now been pushed down to the cameras themselves.... (I won't say they are running Linux) Oooops..... :)

In any case,they are able to determine a human from say a box, or even a dog, and then rack it. Just a few tweaks, and you can connect that to the APM and gimbal.....

http://breckon.eu/toby/publications/papers/gaszczak11uavpeople.pdf

PS: Guess what the fastest growing software group in Amazon is? This group in poaching people from all the other groups..... Wait for it...... Prime Air..... And they are deadly serious about it. They have hooked up with "Google, NASA< Verizon (and a bunch of others) to finalize an automated Air Traffic Control system for UAV's...

Google, NASA work together to design drone air-traffic-control system

Interesting times ahead... I feel like I did when got my first Osborne :)

Cheers
 
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Ok, this ain't nothing to see but it's my first Solo orbit video. The neighbor's junk and a duckweed infested pond. I am figuring out this Lightworks program. It has a lot of cool features and effects. Trial version only lets you output at 720P. There is about 33 seconds of black at the end I forgot to edit out.
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For 4K, I much prefer editing on a Mac, as do a number of folks. I have my reasons, but just don't have the energy to get in a debate over it. I can tell you this though, to call me a Mac fan boy would be a mistake. Frankly, its been my experience that most people who call others a fan boy are the biggest fan boys of all.
 
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Funny story, we are puttingh together a new headquarters that is also a technology showcase (think Tony Stark) and I was there with him. (hense the 70' touch screen I have been playing with in previous videos. What he HAS.. is a REALLY beat up old 'lucky" leather brief case, and an iPhone 4....



The Lidar is a laser, and works better for both accuracy, and at a distance.

Lidar - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The others mentioned have their place, just not this place, as the technologies just don't work well in this varied environmenst, and thats not a good thing when you are relying on it to keep a heavy chunk plastic and metal from crqashing. :)

The video analytics is the really interesting one. I work in that also, and they have come a LONG way with that in the last few years. They are being standardized, and what used to run on servers, has now been pushed down to the cameras themselves.... (I won't say they are running Linux) Oooops..... :)

In any case,they are able to determine a human from say a box, or even a dog, and then rack it. Just a few tweaks, and you can connect that to the APM and gimbal.....

http://breckon.eu/toby/publications/papers/gaszczak11uavpeople.pdf

PS: Guess what the fastest growing software group in Amazon is? This group in poaching people from all the other groups..... Wait for it...... Prime Air..... And they are deadly serious about it. They have hooked up with "Google, NASA< Verizon (and a bunch of others) to finalize an automated Air Traffic Control system for UAV's...

Google, NASA work together to design drone air-traffic-control system

Interesting times ahead... I feel like I did when got my first Osborne :)

Cheers
Osborne??

wow, I remember a heated debate with the head of the mainframe department in the 80's when I brought mine in to show her how cool it was and what it could do... I told her that I thought it was the future..

"it's a toy" she said and went back to her minions folding ultra wide greenbar printouts and chasing fencepost errors in fortran.. She was all giddy about dumping her "washing machines" for actual hard drives...

Thanks for the info, hope someone gets something going reliable for indoor / low level flying for the solo. I'll look forward to Prime air delivering it to my house.;)
 
FWIW I went through this with my "upgrade" to Win10. Apple Quicktime doesn't support Win10 which is kind of ironic. This handicapped Vegas. The solution, after much Googling and dead-ending was to install the previous version of Quicktime which does not have the test for Win10.
 
Osborne??

wow, I remember a heated debate with the head of the mainframe department in the 80's when I brought mine in to show her how cool it was and what it could do... I told her that I thought it was the future..

"it's a toy" she said and went back to her minions folding ultra wide greenbar printouts and chasing fencepost errors in fortran.. She was all giddy about dumping her "washing machines" for actual hard drives...

Thanks for the info, hope someone gets something going reliable for indoor / low level flying for the solo. I'll look forward to Prime air delivering it to my house.;)
Had the Compaq version also (when Osborne went belly up). Like I said, one of everything ;)
You are bringing back lots of old memories.. Just thought of my college days, and making pictures of scantilly clad women n Fortran programs with X's and O's and printing them on large Tally printers :) Those were the days ...
 
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Had the Compaq version also (when Osborne went belly up). Like I said, one of everything ;)
As I remember I was late to that game...
pretty sure mine was a Knock-off of a Compaq.
I think I had "Gem" running on it to simulate a Mac.
Ran on an XT with 640mb pretty convincingly.
Had a full meg with TSR's running in that 384 to really WOW the crowd.:cool:
File Express for a data base and remember the Mainframe Lady not understanding that I could "PAK" a file , reduce it's size and get it back later.
I left that day more confused than her...o_O
 
As I remember I was late to that game...
pretty sure mine was a Knock-off of a Compaq.
I think I had "Gem" running on it to simulate a Mac.
Ran on an XT with 640mb pretty convincingly.
Had a full meg with TSR's running in that 384 to really WOW the crowd.:cool:
File Express for a data base and remember the Mainframe Lady not understanding that I could "PAK" a file , reduce it's size and get it back later.
I left that day more confused than her...o_O
TSR's :) PAK :)
 
TSR's :) PAK :)
You and Rik need to quit bringing this stuff up. You're making me feel old(er)! Started with the Apple II when it was first introduced. Had a whole 16k. I bought 8k worth of chips to expand it to a whopping 24k. Played Star Trek loaded from a cassette player for hours! I was made fun of, with guys asking me what I was going to do with all that memory! Then went to work as a manager for a guy that had 3 Radio Shack computer stores in Anchorage, AK. This was before consumer hard drives. You needed storage you got a TRS Mod II with 8" floppy drives. Then in 1984 I opened a software store in a mall in Reno, NV called Computer Menu. I carried everything but the computer; printers, software (lot's of CPM, PC, TRS-80, Atari), discs, ETC! Was a top Epson dealer in the old dot matrix days.

OK. I feel old now. Gonna go lay down for a bit. Thanks Guys!!
 
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So, it's just a bunch of old geeks on this site?

ok, ...how I used to spend friday nights with an ST225
debug-G=C800:5
20 min later wahla! ...... 20meg of HDD.:confused:

and all those hrs of Pak'n dirty pics to save room....
I spent most of my time watching PC's reboot.

But-

The thrills of mov'n up to CGA, then EGA, and GUYS! look 1024x768!!
OHHH.. the resolution...

Yea, I need to lay down now too....

and I sincerely apologize to anyone born in the mid 80's....:rolleyes:
 
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So, it's just a bunch of old geeks on this site?

ok, ...how I used to spend friday nights with an ST225
debug-G=C800:5
20 min later wahla! ...... 20meg of HDD.:confused:

and all those hrs of Pak'n dirty pics to save room....
I spent most of my time watching PC's reboot.

But-

The thrills of mov'n up to CGA, then EGA, and GUYS! look 1024x768!!
OHHH.. the resolution...

Yea, I need to lay down now too....

and I sincerely apologize to anyone born in the mid 80's....:rolleyes:
Yep! And I remember being excited when 300baud acoustic modems went to 1200 baud. At the time, that was getting close to the theoretical limit!
 
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While ya'll were doing that I was sitting in a giant room full of tape drives and disk drives (washing machines) running and IBM 360 for the Houston Credit Bureau. Also getting in a little time on it with programs I wrote in RPG and COBOL on punch cards. Also worked in Fort Worth with the Tarrant County Justice System on their 360 which basically ran much of the wholes county's operations (time share)
My younger days as a computer operator.......hair and all....lol
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