Solo Disconnecting From Controller!!!

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So, I have made a few post on here about some of the issues I have had. Mainly app crashes and the solo disconnecting from the controller. I even called support talked to an engineer and was ready to send it back. I am an RF engineer and could speak intelligently to the 3DR engineer and we agreed on a few tests before I return it.

Today i was able to get to a really big field (prior to this I was flying on my 5 acres of land but it has a lot of trees). Here are my findings. First, if you don't already know, touching the flight info bar in the app give you extended info including your RSSI level to the craft in db. I wanted a baseline from 3dr of what I should experience with no interference. The engineer said to fly the craft out about 30ft away and go up to about 20ft elevation and yaw the copter around all four sides. You should not see an rssi below -55db.

So I brought out my spectrum analyzer and found that the 2.4Ghz band had a noise floor of around -89db where I was and that there were no devices in the area breaking the noise floor. I then did the test and all was great. I had around -49db on all sides. I then decide to go up higher to see if I get a degredation in signal so I'm going up and boom at a 100ft it goes to return to home. I looked at my rssi and it was -50db that is a Signal to Noise ratio of -39db which is an awesome link. That is when it hit me. I quickly stop the return, went into the app and looked at the elevation limit. IT WAS AT 100ft. So I do it again, fly it up to 100ft boom RTH. I then changed the limit to 250ft and went up again past 100ft to 250ft and again RTH. I determined that my copter, and maybe all solos, automatically trigger RTH when the limits are reached. Furthermore, since I am used to my inspire 1 where reaching that limit just causes the craft to stop, I was interpreting this behaviour as a loss of controller signal. I removed the limits and was able to fly my solo farther than ever today. That is until the forrest preserve police pulled up and wrote me a $75 ticket for flying there :-(
 
Damn Joe, $75 ticket? Was that a state or Natl Forrest?

Good info on the RSSI. But, yes it has been determined that when you break the ceiling on the Alt limit it will trigger a RTH. But with the new firrmware you can take over again by raising the throttle.
 
County Forest preserve. Im about 30 min south of Chicago. I live right next to Cook County and that is where I was. Cook County Preserve. I should have known that crook county would have an ordinance like that.
 
I dont know how you Chicago area people deal with your government Sorry about ticket man !.
 
I dont know how you Chicago area people deal with your government Sorry about ticket man !.
Very difficult. If it wasn't for my job I wouldn't be here. Seems like I always get into the hobbies that are heavily regulated. ATV, Drones, Guns!!!!!!! It was about 2 years ago Illinois finally got the ability to get a Concealed Carry Permit. We were the last state in the US solely because of Chicago!!!!
 
Well hang in there.

Glad you can pack heat legally too :)
 
Those communist people at 3DR sent me a new one NEXT DAY AIR. They sent me an email with tracking just before midnight last night (my time) and when I read the email this AM it said out for delivery. I was stuck and had to take it :confused:

What do you think of that crappy service? LOL

They did a good job and I am pleased. I am just getting over being burned on the pre-order deal so will be the first to admit I was a little gun shy with them.
 
I hear ya. There are definitely things they could have done better and I hope the learn from it. I ordered from B&H thinking since they are a "launch partner" they will have them to ship on release day. I honestly think that If had not found one at best buy I would still be waiting on that order, and I ordered it on 4-15!!!!

In fact the last time i talked to B&H was on 6-15 and they told me that 3DR had not released them yet.... I told the guy he was either a liar or completely ignorant and canceled it.
 
So, I have made a few post on here about some of the issues I have had. Mainly app crashes and the solo disconnecting from the controller. I even called support talked to an engineer and was ready to send it back. I am an RF engineer and could speak intelligently to the 3DR engineer and we agreed on a few tests before I return it.

Today i was able to get to a really big field (prior to this I was flying on my 5 acres of land but it has a lot of trees). Here are my findings. First, if you don't already know, touching the flight info bar in the app give you extended info including your RSSI level to the craft in db. I wanted a baseline from 3dr of what I should experience with no interference. The engineer said to fly the craft out about 30ft away and go up to about 20ft elevation and yaw the copter around all four sides. You should not see an rssi below -55db.

So I brought out my spectrum analyzer and found that the 2.4Ghz band had a noise floor of around -89db where I was and that there were no devices in the area breaking the noise floor. I then did the test and all was great. I had around -49db on all sides. I then decide to go up higher to see if I get a degredation in signal so I'm going up and boom at a 100ft it goes to return to home. I looked at my rssi and it was -50db that is a Signal to Noise ratio of -39db which is an awesome link. That is when it hit me. I quickly stop the return, went into the app and looked at the elevation limit. IT WAS AT 100ft. So I do it again, fly it up to 100ft boom RTH. I then changed the limit to 250ft and went up again past 100ft to 250ft and again RTH. I determined that my copter, and maybe all solos, automatically trigger RTH when the limits are reached. Furthermore, since I am used to my inspire 1 where reaching that limit just causes the craft to stop, I was interpreting this behaviour as a loss of controller signal. I removed the limits and was able to fly my solo farther than ever today. That is until the forrest preserve police pulled up and wrote me a $75 ticket for flying there :-(
YOWZAH! $75.....well at least you now know Solo goes RTL when you hit the ceiling limit.
 
YOWZAH! $75.....well at least you now know Solo goes RTL when you hit the ceiling limit.

I missed the part about RTH at ceiling. @Solo Joe did you update to latest firmware.

I never noticed the RTH on ceiling unto today with the new firmware.
 
County Forest preserve. Im about 30 min south of Chicago. I live right next to Cook County and that is where I was. Cook County Preserve. I should have known that crook county would have an ordinance like that.

Is flying not allowed in the county forest preserves? I live in Cook County too and I thought that the only parks that flying was not allowed in was National Parks. Well I guess I'll just stick to the town parks around my place for now.

I found some info about flying model airplanes and I'm guessing they are including UAVs with it.
http://fpdcc.com/recreation/model-airplane/
 
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Is flying not allowed in the county forest preserves? I live in Cook County too and I thought that the only parks that flying was not allowed in was National Parks. Well I guess I'll just stick to the town parks around my place for now.

I found some info about flying model airplanes and I'm guessing they are including UAVs with it.
http://fpdcc.com/recreation/model-airplane/

google "drones and national parks"
 
I had a controller lost event yesterday. I was using selfi. The controller lost happened when the bird was on its return flight. It was about 30 ft from me and maybe 30 ft up. I had to hit pause and then fly it back to me as I was flying from a dock and couldn't chance an auto landing.

I was surprised I could do this with it reporting a controller lost. But i was able to land and it connected again just after I hit pause.

Why controller lost? I will enter a support ticket and see what they say.
 
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I missed the part about RTH at ceiling. @Solo Joe did you update to latest firmware.

I never noticed the RTH on ceiling unto today with the new firmware.
Yes I am on the latest. I can't say for sure that I was experiencing this on the previous firmware but It seems probable.
 
Is flying not allowed in the county forest preserves? I live in Cook County too and I thought that the only parks that flying was not allowed in was National Parks. Well I guess I'll just stick to the town parks around my place for now.

I found some info about flying model airplanes and I'm guessing they are including UAVs with it.
http://fpdcc.com/recreation/model-airplane/

Yup, they have a blanket ban on all Radio Controlled devices except for the 10 or 11 Flying fields that are dedicated to this.

I was a little aggravated because there was NO ONE there. I was literally the only one in the park and I was flying in an area away from the pavillions. I was flying in an area that is about 4football fields big and NO trees.

In fact it was obvious I was not aware of the ban because as the cop pulls up he asked me how I was doing and I replied "Great, and you?" then went back to flying.
 
I think it might be new Joe :)

I never hit RTH on ceiling. I did get warning that I had reached maximum ceiling but it never returned home.

This is dangerous with a default ceiling of 49' (unless they changed the default in last firmware). Lots of room for issues there.
 
What's status of this topic, any changes?
- $75 fine.. This is why I tend to fly tactically, taking off from different places than I land and scurrying out right after I get the footage I need. They can tell me their opinions on my drone flying if they can catch me.
- I'm running v1.3 now, it's okay but not perfect
- I hit the ceiling quite often, mine has never RTH as a result of it though?
- I found this thread because recently when I really push my range past the red and expect it to RTH, it does - all is well - but the controller flakes out and the wireless signal drops, almost like the antenna's switched off while it flies back. I've had the drone land in my hand perfectly and stop the propellers while the controller says "waiting for solo". To resolve, I have to shut down everything, unplug the battery from the controller, count to 5 and then reconnect the controller battery, boot everything up and then it comes back (I've tried other combinations - this is what's needed). Anybody else seeing this behavior?
- that said, I LOVE my Solo. it's smart and reliable, I've gone places that make me incredibly nervous and the Solo does its job and comes back home. Thank you 3DR!
 
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What's status of this topic, any changes?
- $75 fine.. This is why I tend to fly tactically, taking off from different places than I land and scurrying out right after I get the footage I need. They can tell me their opinions on my drone flying if they can catch me.
- I'm running v1.3 now, it's okay but not perfect
- I hit the ceiling quite often, mine has never RTH as a result of it though?
- I found this thread because recently when I really push my range past the red and expect it to RTH, it does - all is well - but the controller flakes out and the wireless signal drops, almost like the antenna's switched off while it flies back. I've had the drone land in my hand perfectly and stop the propellers while the controller says "waiting for solo". To resolve, I have to shut down everything, unplug the battery from the controller, count to 5 and then reconnect the controller battery, boot everything up and then it comes back (I've tried other combinations - this is what's needed). Anybody else seeing this behavior?
- that said, I LOVE my Solo. it's smart and reliable, I've gone places that make me incredibly nervous and the Solo does its job and comes back home. Thank you 3DR!
This has happened to me twice. I can't seem to figure out why this is, like you said the controller completely stops working. Did you ever find a resolution for this?
 
This has happened to me twice. I can't seem to figure out why this is, like you said the controller completely stops working. Did you ever find a resolution for this?

I've actually not pushed it to find out since the last update - I always keep it within "red" signal range, not past. Used to be I would just fly until I trigger Return to Home and then just watch the footage on the way back, but that's gotten more risky.

I'll push it again after another update and see if they fixed it,

- R
 

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