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the phoenix x8 saga continues

Discussion in 'X8+ Discussion' started by pyrate, Aug 11, 2016.

  1. pyrate

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    As some of you know I crashed my 3DR x8+ and decided to move it to a tarot 650 frame
    I upgraded my escs to someday afford a motor upgrade
    that day has come,
    with those t-motor 3510 630kv navigators and APC 14 x 4.7 props I gain 5 minutes of fly time over stock
    BTW according to Ecalc those expensive tiger carbon props are less efficient coming in .7 minutes less hover time
    and they cost 70 bucks a pair versus the slowflyers at 11 bucks a pair
    Also calculated what would happen if I went to a hex
    lost over a minute of hover 14sf.PNG ver time
     
  2. Perry Lawrence

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    Awesome! I found your build thread. Please keep us (me) posted. Will love following your progress. How do you like the 650? Your using that in an X8 configure correct?
    Also, which escs did you go with?
     
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    I like the 650 frame a lot.
    Acutually ordered two complete kits, and added a deck to my body
    The X8's 8 ESCs required a layer of their own with the power distrubution board.
    You have to watch those instructions, and even some youtube videos they are wrong.
    If you go with that frame let me know if you have questions, I know it well now.

    For the frame I oredered 4 Tarot suspended motor mounts instead of the stock, so I could do the coaxial set up.

    So far the build out is
    Iron Man 650 Frame with extra deck
    8 Castle Creations Quad 35s ESCs
    8 T-Motor 3510-630kv motors
    Pixhawk 1 (will be replaced with a pix 2 and companion computer just as soon as my distributor has them)
    3dr Standard GPS
    3Dr Power Module
    3Drx8 power distro board
    3dr telemetry readios and txc off the x8 (will most lilely upgrade these to a tarranis 9x+ and x8r radio
    10000mah 4s Battery
    Props are still up in the air, LOL but I am leaning tarot 14x5.5 carbon fiber

    I have flown it with the stock x8 800kv motors and 11 inch props. it is stable but a bit twitchy on the yaw axis. Thinking once I get the new motors and props on will give autotune a try

    Payload / fpv will be worked on next
     
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    Why the companion computer??
     
  5. pyrate

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    that will give the DIY the ability to do things like solos smart shots, image processing. etc etc
     
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    Yeah, but there is the firmware component that needs to be present as well......
     
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    What computer will you be using for this?
     
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    Depends on the carrier boards that emerge. Edison is being discussed a lot
     
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    What language would you use to program solo like shots? Very interested in your build! Looking forward to following closely.
     
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    python is what I am working with, but very green at this point. dronekit is where I started, and as I understand it, that is the basis for Kelly's app.
    I know all the smart shots are on a python script from what I have read.

    PH2 facebook group is good to join if you want to keep up with the latest. I have already found my distributor and let him know to sign me up for a ph2, basic carrier board and gps as soon as thy arrive.
    Once I get that on the frame, I will wait and see how brings out the first carrier board for a companion computer. I am hoping that Kelly will port his app over to PH2. There is going to be a lot of folks in DIY moving to PH2, and I would not be surprised to see a couple RTF use it as their flight controller. but it is all pretty fluid right now, Exciting though

    my new motors came in while I was in Louisiana. now just have to find the right props and get it retuned for the T-motors. Want to get some baseline hover and flight times and start working on gimbal and camera.
     
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    BTW I did decide to go with 15x5.5 props. just trying to source them
     
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    Motors are go
    Props go on tomorrow
     
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    Coming along nicely!!
     
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    Flight test in the AM
    image.jpeg image.jpeg
     
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    Looks Great Tim! Looking forward to the test results.
     
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    Thanks man. Its always a little nerve wracking that first flight. If all goes well tomorrow. It will be put away until ph2 arrives at the end of the month. Found out today the Edison will bolt right on to the expansion board that is coming with Ph2. Once I get all that worked out. Then its on to figuring out how to gimbal a black magic mini cinema on it. That should give me a decent rig for about 5k all in.
     
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    Well it did not crash
    its safely home. Was fun to see those big props working
     
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    Nice! Congrats Pyrate, looking forward to the ph2 and bmmcc reports.
     
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    I tend to work slow and deliberate. so be patient.
    truth is in the grand scheme of things I am totally green at this.
    if not for the help some great folks over on FB it would have crashed and burned before now. They have been very patient and supportive. I think I am the test case for how well a noob can navigate the process
     
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    I have 12" CF blades on my Y6. The thing is like a high speed autonomous hedge trimmer. Be very careful with that thing. It will cause a lot more damage to property and people in a collision than a little plastic Solo or Phantom.